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Dhyworth Wikipedya, an godhoniador rydh

Orgraf an wiki[pennfenten]

A yllyn ni ervira war unn orgraf dhe usya rag ynterfas an wiki? Pan esen omma an diwettha tro, skrifys veu yn swf/m, mes lemmyn yth yw yn swf/t. Ny dal an wiasva-ma bos stankva rag neb oll yw gorgemerys gans lytherennans, ytho gwren akordya war unn orgraf rag an ynterfas hag y witha. Py orgraf yw da genowgh? --Morlader (kescows) 12:21, 15 Kevardhu 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Ny wora'vy piw usi orth y janjya, da via genam usya SWF/M. Mars yw nebes moy tus unnver gans hebma, martesen ni a ell keworra rowl obma. Moon (kescows) 01:11, 16 Kevardhu 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Wel, ogas ha SWF/T po SWF/M yw, mes yn gwiryonedh kler yw na wodhons lytherenna mann, an dus a janj an orgraf ha'n erthyglow - kynth yw lytherennans pur poesek dhedha, dell hevel! Ha treweythyow euthyk kamm yw an Kernewek, mes yndella yth yw an Wikipedia Kernewek. Gwell via an SWF/M heb dhout drefenn bos honna devnydhys rag 'taklow poblek' herwydh MAGA. Mes mars yw chanjys arta nebonan a wra diswul an chanjyow - gwari teg mes gokki. 18:16, 14 Genver 2013 (UTC)[reply]


Drefen bos an wiki ma ow kweles moy devnydh a-gynsow, my a grys y'n jeves edhom a venystrer, ytho my re wovynnas hedhas menystrer arta omma [1]. --Moon (keskows) 21:49, 15 Metheven 2013 (UTC)[reply]


My a wor y hyll tus skrifa erthyglow y'n orgraf y honan, mes a ny via gwell kavos pub klass y'n FSS? Payn gwir y'n din yw hwilas hanow an klass y'n wiki kyns y geworra dhe erthyglow. A yllyn ni akordya war rewl nowyth? --Morlader (keskows) 14:53, 11 Gortheren 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Nyns eus denvyth omma sos! 04:10, 21 Gortheren 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Yth esos tejy... --Morlader (keskows) 09:05, 25 Gortheren 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Da via genev bos hanow pub klass FSS. My a wrug dalleth kuntell klassow nag yw yn FSS lemmyn yn Klass:Henwyn Klassow nag yn FSS hag an re usi yn FSS Trad: Klass:Henwyn Klassow yn FSS_Trad. --DavydhT (keskows) 13:56, 16 Gortheren 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Eus nebonan gans tybyans erbynn my dhe dreylya an henwyn klass dhe FSS/M ? DavydhT (keskows) 11:44, 20 Du 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Na, tybyans da yw y'm breus evy, ke yn-rag! --Gwikor Frank (keskows) 12:35, 20 Du 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Yth esov vy orth y wul, yma nebes kalettrow erell gans an folennow yn Klass:Arwodhyow stergylgh, res via yn termyn a dheu gul folennow difrans a-barth arwodhyow steroriethel a'n stergylgh. DavydhT (keskows) 21:06, 20 Du 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Chanjyow dhe'n Folenn Dre[pennfenten]

Ottomma nebes chanjyow a dal bos gwrys dhe'n folenn dre (henn yw, kepar dell yw hedhyw. Piw a woer fatell vydh a-vorow):
dhe weres dhyn -> dh'agan gweres
yn unn welhe -> dre welhe
hag yn unn ynkressya -> ha der ynkressya
war an kesrosweyth -> y'n kesrosweyth
an guntel -> an kuntel
a'n jeves an wiasva -> a's teves an wiasva
rol dien -> rol dhien
an kemeneth -> an gemeneth
hwans dhe dhyski -> hwans a dhyski
devnydhyoryon byw -> devnydhyoryon vyw 20:19, 28 Gortheren 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Tus a dhevnydh an wiasva a ervir war dhesin an bennfolen, mar ny'n devnydhydh, ny'th eus gwir dhe grodhvola pan vo chanjyes. Nyns esov mes owth assaya dri nebes kessenyans dhe'n wiasva, ha herdhya an kudynnow orgrafek yn termyn eus passyes. Meur ras rag an ewnheansow, my a skrifas an tekst yn unn fistena (gans "hwans" y hyllir devnydhya "a" po "dhe" aga dhew, mes my a'n chanjyas dhe "a" rag gwitha an kres). Martesen da via genes gwruthyl akont ha dalleth skrifa nebes erthyglow? --Moon (keskows) 20:46, 28 Gortheren 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Mes nyns yw henna gwir! Unn person a ervir desin an bennfolen. Ha hi (ha'y lytherennieth) a janj pub tri mis. Mes gweth ages henna, yma tus a vynn chanjya ger po lavar omma ha ger po lavar ena y'n erthyglow (heb konvedhes an pyth a wrons, heb mar) - ny vern mars eus polisi erbynn fara a'n par na. Ha rakhenna yma lemmyn erthyglow skrifys yn neb kemmysk euthyk a lytherenniethow.
My a skrifas erthyglow rag an Wikipedia ma nans yw termyn hir, mes ena an vroweghysi lytherennans a dheuth ha shyndya lies erthygel ha lemmyn ny vynnav skoelya an termyn ow skrifa erthyglow a vydh chanjys herwydh bodh nebonan na woer ogas ha travyth a-dro dhe'n yeth mes a gris bos neb chanj gwiw drefenn ev/hi dhe redya neppyth a-dro dhodho y'n kesroesweyth. Mes chons da, Moon. Mar kyllydh dri kessenyans dhe'n Wikipedia kernewek ha gul vri a bub eghenn a Gernewek, martesen lies den a wra skrifa erthyglow y'n termyn a dheu.

Branvras (keskows) 10:21, 29 Gortheren 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Wel, unn berson a dhevnydh an wiasva war an diwedh, ytho unn berson a ervir desin an bennfolen! Ny via an bennfolen chanjyes a-dhia mis Me 2012, ytho neb peswardhek mis. A ny brederydh hi dhe heveli gwell lemmyn? Drehevys yw an wiasva gans an dus a's devnydh, ytho nyns yw marnas skeus a'y devnydhyoryon. Mars yw deray, yndella yth yw hy devnydhyoryon! Yma moy es 2,500 erthygel, ny allav aga hempenna oll ow honan (my a'm beus bewnans). Mar prederydh bos skoll a dermyn ynkressya an myns a Gernewek war an kesrosweyth, po gwruthyl asnodh warlinen a yll tus devnydhya rag gwellhe aga Hernewek (pypynag a vo studh Kernewek an wiasva y'n pols-ma), wel dha dhewis jy yw. --Moon (keskows) 16:48, 29 Gortheren 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Leverys yn ta, Branvras. Nyns yw es perthi an chanjyow heb us a welyn omma (rag ensampel: avon - river - ryver - dowr - avon arta; kernewek - kernowek - kernowak - kernewek arta; yma ensamplow erell, heb mar). Nyns yw an ger y honan an kudynn. Mar mynn nebonan skrifa 'kernewek' po 'kernowek' po 'curnowak' y tal bos gesys yndella heb chanjyow didhiwedh. Ha'n brassa kudynn yw, pan yw neppyth chanjys y'n vaner na, spas 'owrek' yw rag 'bresel flamm' dhe sordya ha ny hwer henna saw awos fowt a bennskriforyon. My a aswonn tus na vynn dos dhe'n wiasva ma drefenn bos an fara na mar annius.
Moon, nyns ens marnas profyansow. Mars yw 'hwans dhe' gwell genes (ha kevys yw y'n tekstow, dhe wir) res yw dhis y asa yndella. Ny vynnav dadhla a-dro dhe'n kas (kyn lever an brassa rann a dus 'hwans A neppyth', orth ow brys vy :-) ). 20:26, 29 Gortheren 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Blah blah blah. Yma mater brassa omma, nyns yw oll an flows ma a-dro dhe lytherenieth ha breselyow flamm mes red herring. Ny'm beus hwans a dhadhla hemma namoy. Yma chons dhe wruthyl asnodh splann rag Kernewegoryon. Hwi a'gas beus dewis, Branvras ha'n IP dihanow, kepar ha tus freth erel na vynn dos dhe'n wiasva: hwi a yll gweres dhe dhisplegya an wiasva rag Kernewegoryon oll, po hwi a yll bos heb gul tra vyth omma marnas krodhvola y'n folennow keskows. My, ha piwpynag ken a gevro, a bes genowgh po hebdhowgh. --Moon (keskows) 21:05, 30 Gortheren 2013 (UTC)[reply]


The various notes, notices and announcements left here over the last few years have been moved to an archive. Arthur Kerensa (keskows) 16:29, 4 Kevardhu 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Editing News #1—2018[pennfenten]

20:56, 2 Meurth 2018 (UTC)

Galicia 15 - 15 Challenge[pennfenten]

Wikipedia:Galicia 15 - 15 Challenge is a public writing competition which will improve improve and translate this list of 15 really important articles into as many languages as possible. Everybody can help in any language to collaborate on writing and/or translating articles related to Galicia. To participate you just need to sign up here. Thank you very much.--Breogan2008 (keskows) 14:16, 12 Meurth 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Redirects such as (Truro - Truru) can now be categorised using {{R sowsnek}}. Emblyn II (keskows) 09:50, 27 Meurth 2018 (UTC)[reply]


Braf gweld llawer o waith yn digwydd ar eich Wicipedia! Bendigedig! I'm really glad to see so much happening here these days. I'm mainly on the Welsh Wikipedia, so if you need anything - any help in any way - just ask! Llywelyn2000 (keskows) 12:54, 28 Meurth 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi! We are doing three main projects at the moment; the Wikipedia:Kernow page which lists all the towns, villages and existing hamlets in Kernow; a possible update to the main page; and an infobox for UK places which is based on the infobox used on the Sowsnek Wikipedya. The last set of infoboxes was 10 years ago so a lot of modules and things it relies on are being imported. Emblyn II (keskows) 15:38, 28 Meurth 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome to Wales! The Celtic Knot Conference...[pennfenten]

I apologise that this invitation is in English; feel free to translate into your own language!

I would like to invite you to the second Wikipedia language conference focusing on supporting Celtic and other small and Indigenous Languages. This year 'Celtic Knot' will be at held on the 5th and 6th of July at the National Library of Wales in Wales' most famous seaside resort of Aberystwyth.

For more information on how you could be part of this great event, pop over to our website where you can also contact Jason Evans, our National Wikimedian and conference organiser. We have many speakers who will talk about what works for them, how we can learn from each other... small is beautiful...

Viva la diversity! Llywelyn2000 (keskows) 13:21, 4 Ebrel 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Time to bring embedded maps (‘mapframe’) to most Wikipedias[pennfenten]

CKoerner (WMF) (talk) 21:38, 24 Ebrel 2018 (UTC)[reply]

New Wikipedia Library Accounts Available Now (May 2018)[pennfenten]

Hello Wikimedians!

The TWL OWL says sign up today!

The Wikipedia Library is announcing signups today for free, full-access, accounts to research and tools as part of our Publisher Donation Program. You can sign up for new accounts and research materials on the Library Card platform:

  • Rock's Backpages – Music articles and interviews from the 1950s onwards - 50 accounts
  • Invaluable – Database of more than 50 million auctions and over 500,000 artists - 15 accounts
  • Termsoup – Translation tool


Many other partnerships with accounts available are listed on our partners page, including Baylor University Press, Loeb Classical Library, Cairn, Gale and Bloomsbury.

Do better research and help expand the use of high quality references across Wikipedia projects: sign up today!
--The Wikipedia Library Team 18:03, 30 Me 2018 (UTC)

You can host and coordinate signups for a Wikipedia Library branch in your own language. Please contact Ocaasi (WMF).
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Update on page issues on mobile web[pennfenten]

CKoerner (WMF) (talk) 20:58, 12 Metheven 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Renew adminship[pennfenten]

Hi, I've made a request to renew my adminship on the kw wiki. It's been a few years but there's some new interest in what it can do for the Cornish speaking community so it seems like a good time to get stuck back in. Anyone who sees this message is welcome to add comments of support or opposition! --Moon (keskows) 03:32, 6 Gortheren 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Enabling a helpful feature for Template editors[pennfenten]

CKoerner (WMF) (talk) 21:28, 6 Est 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Editing News #2—2018[pennfenten]

14:17, 2 Du 2018 (UTC)

New Wikipedia Library Accounts Available Now (March 2019)[pennfenten]

Hello Wikimedians!

The TWL OWL says sign up today!

The Wikipedia Library is announcing signups today for free, full-access, accounts to published research as part of our Publisher Donation Program. You can sign up for new accounts and research materials on the Library Card platform:

  • Kinige – Primarily Indian-language ebooks - 10 books per month
  • Gale – Times Digital Archive collection added (covering 1785-2013)
  • JSTOR – New applications now being taken again

Many other partnerships with accounts available are listed on our partners page, including Baylor University Press, Taylor & Francis, Cairn, Annual Reviews and Bloomsbury. You can request new partnerships on our Suggestions page.

Do better research and help expand the use of high quality references across Wikipedia projects: sign up today!
--The Wikipedia Library Team 17:40, 13 Meurth 2019 (UTC)

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Celtic Knot Wikimedia Language Conference 2019[pennfenten]

Please translate to your own language! Apology for writing in English!

The third Celtic Knot Language Conference will be held this year at Penryn Campus, Cornwall on the 4th & 5th of July 2019.

More information can be found here. See you there! Llywelyn2000 (keskows) 09:11, 6 Metheven 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Wikidata Bridge: edit Wikidata’s data from Wikipedia infoboxes[pennfenten]

Editing News #1—July 2019[pennfenten]

18:32, 23 Gortheren 2019 (UTC)

Dylea Folennow[pennfenten]

Lowena dhywgh. Fatell yllyn ny dallath argerdh dyleans folen? Nyns eus ma's unn ger wàr an folen-ma, ha nyns yw ger Kernowek! Yma folen adro dhe'n Ûkrayn solabrÿs, ytho my a vynn dasrowtya dhe honna, saw y coodh dhe folennow in yêthow erel bos remuvys, dell gresaf. Eus fordh? --TywysogMelyn (keskows) 14:55, 18 Gwynngala 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Editing News #2 – Mobile editing and talk pages[pennfenten]

11:12, 29 Hedra 2019 (UTC)

Wikipedia Asian Month 2019[pennfenten]

Please help translate to your language

Wikipedia Asian Month is back! We wish you all the best of luck for the contest. The basic guidelines of the contest can be found on your local page of Wikipedia Asian Month. For more information, refer to our Meta page for organizers.

Looking forward to meet the next ambassadors for Wikipedia Asian Month 2019!

For additional support for organizing offline event, contact our international team on wiki or on email. We would appreciate the translation of this message in the local language by volunteer translators. Thank you!

Wikipedia Asian Month International Team.

MediaWiki message delivery (keskows) 16:57, 31 Hedra 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Extension of Wikipedia Asian Month contest[pennfenten]

In consideration of a week-long internet block in Iran, Wikipedia Asian Month 2019 contest has been extended for a week past November. The articles submitted till 7th December 2019, 23:59 UTC will be accepted by the fountain tools of the participating wikis.

Please help us translate and spread this message in your local language.

Wikipedia Asian Month International Team

--MediaWiki message delivery (keskows) 14:16, 27 Du 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Wiki Loves Folklore[pennfenten]

Hello Folks,

Wiki Loves Love is back again in 2020 iteration as Wiki Loves Folklore from 1 February, 2020 - 29 February, 2020. Join us to celebrate the local cultural heritage of your region with the theme of folklore in the international photography contest at Wikimedia Commons. Images, videos and audios representing different forms of folk cultures and new forms of heritage that haven’t otherwise been documented so far are welcome submissions in Wiki Loves Folklore. Learn more about the contest at Meta-Wiki and Commons.

Kind regards,
Wiki Loves Folklore International Team
— Tulsi Bhagat (contribs | talk)
sent using MediaWiki message delivery (keskows) 18 Gen 2020 da 06:14 (UTC)

Editing news 2020 #1 – Discussion tools[pennfenten]

8 Ebr 2020 da 19:24 (UTC)

Editing news 2020 #2[pennfenten]

17 Met 2020 da 20:33 (UTC)

How to edit event for Speak Cornish Week[pennfenten]

Hello, apologies for not writing in Cornish. As part of my work I'm in touch with Cornwall Council who are running some events for Speak Cornish Week 2020 (22 June to 30 June). As part of that, they've asked if we can run a how to edit Wikipedia workshop. The week itself is fully booked, so we're looking at the option of having the training as two one-hour sessions the week after (dates TBC) and drawing people's attention to it during Speak Cornish Week.

I can talk to people about why Wikipedia is important and the mechanics of editing (ie: these are the buttons to press) and I was wondering if anyone from the community wanted to join and maybe talk for a couple of minutes about the Cornish Wikipedia.

Notifying some recently active editors (hope that's ok): Vishantkv, Aqchampion, Gazamp, Gaudio, Gwikor Frank, Sambrown1993, Sotiale, НСНУ. --Richard Nevell (keskows) 19 Met 2020 da 11:56 (UTC)

Hi, I don't mind helping out but I've only been editing here for a month or two and my Cornish is barely passable so if any of the more experienced editors can do it, I'll yield to them. Thanks, Gazamp (keskows) 21 Met 2020 da 17:16 (UTC)
I'd be willing, but although my Cornish is decent, I don't know a great deal about Wikipedia editing yet. I'm pretty much at the basic "translate an article and add links" stage. Lowena dhis, Gwikor Frank 21 Met 2020 da 20:58 (UTC)
Thanks for the replies, Gazamp and Gwikor Frank. What might be nice is if you could say a little bit about why you started editing? The first of the two sessions will be on Monday 29 June, starting at 4pm (BST). I can send you the details of how to join on the day (we'll be using Zoom), but I'd be happy to have a quick chat about it before hand if either of you want to. Richard Nevell (keskows) 24 Met 2020 da 16:35 (UTC)
Sure, absolutely. Chatting beforehand sounds good to me. Perhaps you could send me an email? [REDACTED] is my address. --Gwikor Frank (keskows) 24 Met 2020 da 22:23 (UTC)
Yeah, same. I think you can email me through Wikipedia? If not I can tell you it here. Thanks, Gazamp (keskows) 25 Met 2020 da 17:11 (UTC)

German broadcast video availble to translate into Cornish and other languages[pennfenten]

Hi there These videos are availble for translation and reuse from German documentaries at ZDF, and are in use on German Wikipedia:

I've made the same suggestion of translation to the Latin and Welsh Wikipedias. If there is interest I will perhaps try to organise getting transcripts in German / English for translation and addition of target language audio. JimKillock (keskows) 20 Met 2020 da 09:58 (UTC)

Proof of concept, video of Roman roads with German and English subtitles. From here, Cornish subtitles could easily be added, and then a second version of the video with Cornish audio added. Then, the same can be done with any of the other videos, there are around 100.
Das Straßennetz im antiken Rom (CC BY 4.0)
Hey, JimKillock, I had a go at doing this! There should now be playable Cornish subtitles for the Roman roads video you posted here! --Gwikor Frank (keskows) 21:31, 8 Gortheren 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Hi @Gwikor Frank:, yes we are still doing this :) Videos have been translated and dubbed into Welsh (10); Esperanto (23), Dutch (6) and Latin (7). It's actually really quite a simple job, the main issue is translation. Audio is not so difficult for a competent speaker. Editing takes a few minutes, alongside changing subtitle timings, about 30-45 minutes total.
I'm happy to help with video editing and publishing if people here can translate and provide audio. If someone wants to do an audio track and upload to Wiki Commons - you don't need to worry about the timings, this and the video can be adjusted - then I can edit and publish. --JimKillock (keskows) 08:59, 16 Hedra 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Celtic Knot Wikimedia Language Conference[pennfenten]

The Celtic Knot Conference takes place on 9 and 10 July. It's an online event and is jointly organised by Wikimedia Community Ireland and Wikimedia UK. There will also be satellite events taking place between 6 and 12 July. The programme is a mixture of live sessions and prerecorded talks.

The conference aims to bring people together to share their experiences of working on sharing information in minority languages. We aim to help people learn how to direct the flow of information across language barriers and support their communities. As in previous years we will have a strong focus on Wikidata and its potential to support languages.

Registration is open now, so please register on Eventbrite.

Hope to see you online next week! Richard Nevell (keskows) 1 Gor 2020 da 17:19 (UTC)

Editing news 2020 #3[pennfenten]

12:55, 9 Gortheren 2020 (UTC)

New Wikipedia Library Collections Now Available (September 2020)[pennfenten]

Hello Wikimedians!

The TWL owl says sign up today!

The Wikipedia Library is announcing new free, full-access, accounts to reliable sources as part of our research access program. You can sign up for new accounts and research materials on the Library Card platform:

Many other partnerships are listed on our partners page, including Adam Matthew, EBSCO, Gale and JSTOR.

A significant portion of our collection now no longer requires individual applications to access! Read more in our recent blog post.

Do better research and help expand the use of high quality references across Wikipedia projects!
--The Wikipedia Library Team 09:49, 3 Gwynngala 2020 (UTC)

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Online session next week for Celtic language editors[pennfenten]

Sorry for posting this message in Sasanach! Join us in November for a Celtic Knot-focused community discussion on the next ten years of the Wikimedia movement.

We'll run a 2 hr online meeting for editors and community organisers working on Celtic languages (Breton, Cornish, Irish, Manx, Scottish Gaelic and Welsh) to discuss priorities and wishes we have about the future of these communities. Is improving user experience a priority? How about better safety and inclusion? Or developing community leaders within your wiki? Let's discuss what's most important for your community to thrive.

You don't need to be a top contributor - a desire to help your community, is enough! Hope to see you there. Register by filling in the form below and we'll follow up with joining info a few days in advance. Link to register here. Robin Owain aka Llywelyn2000 (keskows) 13:34, 9 Du 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Aqchampion, Boghblogh, Brwynog, DavydhT, DiworthNorth, Gazamp, Gourmas, Gwikor Frank Taking the liberty of pinging some editors so they're aware of the above. Richard Nevell (keskows) 15:56, 10 Du 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Great to see so many of you there on Zoom yesterday! A few weeks ago, I started to work with DavydhT on the Wikidata lists. As I have a db of 265 names (mostly from Avionary), and as we have Brwynog (chair of bird naming standards on Cymraeg) I thought maybe we could work on getting new stub articles on birds which the community can develop further? , It's been 11 years since I created one of the first templates on kw-wiki: Skantlyn:Yethow keltek, I also have the bird names in the other Celtic languages, so they too could be added on the articles. I've started a wikiproject: Wikipedia:Wikiproject ydhyn! Llywelyn2000 (keskows) 06:09, 15 Du 2020 (UTC)[reply]
There's a little bit on my user page about animals and plants, including a project we did in the Cornish Language Office with zoo animals Devnydhyer:DavydhT/Kyst_Tewes/Ragdres_Milva, some of these articles are only stubs but some actually quite detailed. More recently, I've surveyed the Cornwall Wildlife trust calendars, and noted them as potential articles here: Devnydhyer:DavydhT/Kyst Tewes/Kalendar Trest Bewnans Gwyls Kernow. I'm now looking at the terminology lists for plants and insects that Akademi Kernewek worked on and I added to the dictionary last year. DavydhT (keskows) 08:32, 15 Du 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Bendigedig Davydh! I'm preparing templates for a WD infobox on species, and have started a Wikiproject (Wikipedia:Wikiproject ydhyn), so the Talk page can outline our modus operandi! Translation requests etc... Is there a term for 'Wikiproject' in Kernowek? if not, can we coin one? Llywelyn2000 (keskows) 09:10, 15 Du 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I've actually been looking at the terminology plants list too! What a weird coincidence. I've been slowly getting the Cornish names into wikidata when I'm not writing my #kwikiwrimo challenge articles. --Gwikor Frank (keskows) 12:40, 20 Du 2020 (UTC)[reply]

As an aside from the Wikiproject birds, the code for places and things named after saints is here on Peran. Just change Peran's Qid to the new saint's Qid and it should work on all articles on saints etc. Llywelyn2000 (keskows) 16:13, 15 Du 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Semi automated Infobox now on the Rudhek article (image, birdsong audio, aucn classification, map etc). Thanks @Gwikor Frank: for joining the Wikipedia:Wikiproject ydhyn! Llywelyn2000 (keskows) 16:33, 26 Du 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Collective / singulative nouns[pennfenten]

One of the things I came across when sketching out possible articles in the area of animals and plants is that some of these are collective nouns which add a -en for the singulative. Devnydhyer:DavydhT/Kyst_Tewes/Kalendar_Trest_Bewnans_Gwyls_Kernow, Devnydhyer:DavydhT/Kyst Tewes/Plansow, Devnydhyer:DavydhT/Kyst Tewes/Hwesker. Should the article title in general be the collective or the singulative (e.g. Gwenen or Gwenenen for w:en:Bee)? DavydhT (keskows) 09:10, 17 Du 2020 (UTC)[reply]

My gut is to say collective. You're looking up bees, all of bees, the concept of bees, rather than just one bee. :) --Gwikor Frank (keskows) 12:37, 20 Du 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Hi! On cy-wiki, species are always singular; same I think for enwiki, frwiki etc; eg Gwenynen rather than gwenyn (pl). The only exception I can think of are mountains eg Mynyddoedd yr Atlas (Atlas Mountains) and similar. Individual species always have an upercase at the beginning of the name on cywiki (and in Latin) eg Llinos bengoch yr Arctig. Llywelyn2000 (keskows) 13:08, 8 Kevardhu 2020 (UTC)[reply]
PS In case you missed it, I've started a Wikiproject on birds here, and could help create 1,000 new articles if you're interested in cooperating. Jot your username at the bottom of the page! Llywelyn2000 (keskows) 13:11, 8 Kevardhu 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Global bot policy proposal: invitation to a Meta discussion[pennfenten]


Just a heads up that I've created a Wikidata driven infobox based on things, following a request from User:Brwynog - please add this template onto any relevant articles. I've added a few tips and other info on the Skantlyn itself. I've created, on cywiki templates for people - cy:Nodyn:Person and one for places: cy:Nodyn:Gwybodlen lle. So if you like them I can add these too. But in my opinion, getting Skantlyn:Pethau translated should be done first otherwise, you will have more English on kw-wiki than Kernewek! Let me know! I'll change the name of the template as soon as some lets me know what the translation of 'things' is in kw. Llywelyn2000 (keskows) 16:13, 9 Kevardhu 2020 (UTC)[reply]

'Taklow' would be Pethau in Kernewek. I've tried transferring over en:Template:Infobox element to kw, and show my progress so far at Devnydhyer:DavydhT/Kyst_Tewes/Elvennow but it's quite complex and there would be quite a lot of terms etc. to translate, and it seems to me as well a relatively simple Wikidata based template might be a bit easier to user. DavydhT (keskows) 20:27, 9 Kevardhu 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I've shown a box generated by Skantlyn:Taklow for each of those chemical elements that are listed within the SWF dictionary: Devnydhyer:DavydhT/Kyst_Tewes/Elvennow. DavydhT (keskows) 14:31, 10 Kevardhu 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Bendgedig! Sesiwn Zoom cyn hir? Llywelyn2000 (keskows) 20:02, 10 Kevardhu 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Uploading files[pennfenten]

Dydh da! Just wondering if anyone knows if there is a way to upload non-free files to kw-wiki - Special:Upload (which works on en-wiki) is blocked for anyone not an admin. I'd suggest a page where users can request files to be uploaded but from what I can see, kw-wiki only has two admins, neither of whom are that active here. Does anyone know a way to get around this? Meur ras, Gazamp (keskows) 15:28, 29 Kevardhu 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. Yes, I've just implemented it on ga-wiki / Irish wiki, as they have 2,500 Irish book covers to upload. As you know, book covers, albums, etc are disallowed on Commons. However, for it to be enabled on a wiki, several long-winded policies etc need to be in place, and the community needs to discuss and approve etc. If this becomes a priority for the community, let me know and, yes, I'll help. Llywelyn2000 (keskows) 12:10, 27 Ebrel 2021 (UTC)[reply]

New Wikipedia Library Collections Available Now (February 2021)[pennfenten]

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Do better research and help expand the use of high quality references across Wikipedia projects!

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Wiki Loves Folklore 2021 is back![pennfenten]

Please help translate to your language

You are humbly invited to participate in the Wiki Loves Folklore 2021 an international photography contest organized on Wikimedia Commons to document folklore and intangible cultural heritage from different regions, including, folk creative activities and many more. It is held every year from the 1st till the 28th of February.

You can help in enriching the folklore documentation on Commons from your region by taking photos, audios, videos, and submitting them in this commons contest.

Please support us in translating the project page and a banner message to help us spread the word in your native language.

Kind regards,

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MediaWiki message delivery (keskows) 13:25, 6 Hwevrel 2021 (UTC)

Proposal: Set two-letter project shortcuts as alias to project namespace globally[pennfenten]

Please help translate to your language

Hello everyone,

I apologize for posting in English. I would like to inform everyone that I created a new global request for comment (GRFC) at Meta Wiki, which may affect your project: m:Requests for comment/Set short project namespace aliases by default globally.

In this GRFC, I propose that two-project shortcuts for project names will become a default alias for the project namespace. For instance, on all Wikipedias, WP will be an alias to the Wikipedia: namespace (and similar for other projects). Full list is available in the GRFC.

This is already the case for Wikivoyages, and many individual projects asked for this alias to be implemented. I believe this makes it easier to access the materials in the project namespace, as well as creating shortcuts like WP:NPOV, as well as helps new projects to use this feature, without having to figure out how to request site configuration changes first.

As far as I can see, Wikipedia currently does not have such an alias set. This means that such an alias will be set for you, if the GRFC is accepted by the global community.

I would like to ask all community members to participate in the request for comment at Meta-Wiki, see m:Requests for comment/Set short project namespace aliases by default globally.

Please feel free to ask me if you have any questions about this proposal.

Best regards,
--Martin Urbanec (talk) 14:12, 18 Hwevrel 2021 (UTC)

Global bot policy changes[pennfenten]

Menystrer Nowydh[pennfenten]

Dydh da, oll. Herwydh an polisi, yth esov ow fostya omma yn kever ow bodh dhe dhos ha bos menystrer agan wiki. My a wel bos dew venystrer aral mes nyns yns i mar strik omma, dell hevel. My re dhegemeras nebes profyansow kyns lemmyn dhe ombrofya rag hemma. Ytho, mar mynnowgh dadhla hemma, herwydh an polisi, gwrewgh mar pleg! :) --Gwikor Frank (keskows) 19:38, 10 Ebrel 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Gwikor Frank: Would you mind translating to English please? My Kernewek and the online dictionary aren't good enough to understand anything more than small phrases at the moment! Meur ras, Gazamp (keskows) 18:02, 11 Ebrel 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Gazamp: No problem! Tr: "Hello, all. Following the policy, I am posting here about my wish to become an administrator of our wiki. I see that there are two other administrators but they aren't very active here, it seems. I have received some suggestions before now to suggest myself for this. So, if you want to discuss this, following the policy, please do! :)" --Gwikor Frank (keskows) 18:23, 11 Ebrel 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Gwikor Frank: Splann, meur ras! Gazamp (keskows) 18:29, 11 Ebrel 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Strong support: I don't think there could be a better candidate for admin to be honest. We 100% need one, and Gwikor Frank is one of the most consistent and helpful editors around. Gazamp (keskows) 18:31, 11 Ebrel 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • I second Gazamp: Gwikor Frank is the perfect person to be administrator, having organised the November wikipedia page writing challenges. Brwynog (keskows) 15.42, 13 Ebrel 2021 (UTC)

Letting you all know that I have made the request on the central request page today. Thank you for your support, meur ras a'gas skoodhyans. I'll keep you all updated. --Gwikor Frank (keskows) 12:52, 22 Ebrel 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Bid successful! Mwahaha, I am now a menystrer for 3 months (expiring on 2021-07-25). I'm still learning things, of course, but please feel to come to me if there's anything I can do.--Gwikor Frank (keskows) 16:29, 2 Me 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Keslowena! Gazamp (keskows) 10:42, 3 Me 2021 (UTC)[reply]

3 WD Infoboxes now working[pennfenten]

OK, so now we have two Wikidata Infoboxes:

1. the first, Skantlyn:Taklow:

{{Taklow | fetchwikidata=ALL | suppressfields= }}

2. the second is Skantlyn:Person:

{{Person | fetchwikidata=ALL | onlysourced=no | suppressfields= | nationality = [[Image:Flag of Cornwall.svg|25px]] [[Kernow]]}}

3. + Skantlyn:Lle (translation needed for the title 'Place' / 'location'):

{{Lle | fetchwikidata=ALL | suppressfields = }}

Any problems - let me know.

These are not infoboxes where you just copy the above code. This should be disallowed! If the code is added to an article, I suggest strongly, that everything which appears should be translated. That's also the case on the old infoboxes: the fields need to be filled in! The difference is this: on the old infoboxes, the fields needed to be translated / added manually every time; the new Wikidata driven infoboxes only need to be translated ONCE! So what you will be doing, in effect, is to create, over the next few years, a modern, ongoing, ediatble and open Cornish dictionary. Then you will fly! Llywelyn2000 (keskows) 12:16, 27 Ebrel 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Llywelyn2000: Meur ras dhis rag dha weres, diolch yn fawr iawn am dy gymorth --Brwynog (keskows) 14:21, 27 Ebrel 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Ymddiheuraf na fedraf siarad y Gernyweg! I appologise that I can't speak Cornish!
Skantlyn:Lle is on the way. What's the Cornish for 'location' or 'place' please? Llywelyn2000 (keskows) 12:44, 28 Ebrel 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Skantlyn:Lle - now done. Meur ras Brwynog! Llywelyn2000 (keskows) 16:00, 28 Ebrel 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, you're both absolute stars! Meur ras bras Llywelyn2000 ha Brwynog! --Gwikor Frank (keskows) 19:53, 2 Me 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Llywelyn2000 and Gwikor Frank: Would place be 'tyller' (as in Henwyn Tyller) rather than 'le'? In any case, is there a distinction between the two? Meur ras, Gazamp (keskows) 10:34, 3 Me 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Good spot @Gazamp: and you're quite right. All I did last night was knock the extra l off lle to make it Cornish, tyller is likely better though. I checked my instincts with fellow Kerneweger friends and the distinction is connotation and not cut and dry. To us, 'le' seems more general and can be less concrete, whereas 'tyller' is more of a concrete and specific place, a location. So better here! Meur ras a'th kampol! --Gwikor Frank (keskows) 11:04, 3 Me 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Gwikor Frank: Meur ras for the explanation! Gazamp (keskows) 11:10, 3 Me 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Brwynog: If I want to include an audio file, what would be the name of the skantlyn, please? If you look at my page on Trotsky, there is an audio file at the beginning. I'll leave it there for you to see what works. Meur ras rag dha weres. Brwynog (keskows) 18:23, 9 Me 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Wikimania 2021: Individual Program Submissions[pennfenten]

Dear all,

Wikimania 2021 will be hosted virtually for the first time in the event's 15-year history. Since there is no in-person host, the event is being organized by a diverse group of Wikimedia volunteers that form the Core Organizing Team (COT) for Wikimania 2021.

Event Program - Individuals or a group of individuals can submit their session proposals to be a part of the program. There will be translation support for sessions provided in a number of languages. See more information here.

Below are some links to guide you through;

Please note that the deadline for submission is 18th June 2021.

Announcements- To keep up to date with the developments around Wikimania, the COT sends out weekly updates. You can view them in the Announcement section here.

Office Hour - If you are left with questions, the COT will be hosting some office hours (in multiple languages), in multiple time-zones, to answer any programming questions that you might have. Details can be found here.

Best regards,

MediaWiki message delivery (keskows) 04:18, 16 Metheven 2021 (UTC)[reply]

On behalf of Wikimania 2021 Core Organizing Team

Editing news 2021 #2[pennfenten]

14:14, 24 Metheven 2021 (UTC)

Navbox rag Rannevesow[pennfenten]

My a assayas gul neppyth kepar hag yw gans an erthygel cy:Cytser gans rol an 88 ranneves. My a viras orth an skantlyn cy:Nodyn:Cytserau ha y assaysa treylya dhe Gernewek mes nag o an format da y'n vershyon kernewek Skantlyn:Rannevesow. DavydhT (keskows) 15:05, 30 Gortheren 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Menystrer arta[pennfenten]

Dydh da, oll. Yth esov ow fostya omma yn kever ow bodh dhe besya bos menystrer agan wiki. Ytho, mar mynnowgh dadhla hemma, herwydh an polisi, gwrewgh mar pleg! Translation: Hello, all. I am posting here about my wish to continue being an administrator of our wiki. So, if you want to discuss this, following the policy, please do! :)--Gwikor Frank (keskows) 21:29, 2 Est 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Strong support - thought I'd add a belated comment as I've only just seen this. Gwikor Frank has done and continues to do great and much needed work here. I'm glad to have them around as an admin. Gazamp (keskows) 17:05, 12 Est 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Again, strong support from me. It's great to have someone who's willling to put the work in, and we really appreciate it. Brwynog (keskows) 16:06, 14 Est 2021 (UTC)[reply]

New Wikipedia Library collections and design update (August 2021)[pennfenten]

Hello Wikimedians!

The TWL OWL says log in today!

The Wikipedia Library is pleased to announce the addition of new collections, alongside a new interface design. New collections include:

Additionally, De Gruyter and Nomos have been centralised from their previous on-wiki signup location on the German Wikipedia. Many other collections are freely available by simply logging in to The Wikipedia Library with your Wikimedia login!

We are also excited to announce that the first version of a new design for My Library was deployed this week. We will be iterating on this design with more features over the coming weeks. Read more on the project page on Meta.

Lastly, an Echo notification will begin rolling out soon to notify eligible editors about the library (T132084). If you can translate the notification please do so at TranslateWiki!

--The Wikipedia Library Team 13:23, 11 Est 2021 (UTC)

This message was delivered via the Global Mass Message tool to The Wikipedia Library Global Delivery List.


In English for clarity: the policies of this Wikipedia were never really fully established and the page for them is very out of date. I would like to start a discussion here with a view towards setting the suggested policies as accepted Kwiki policies. I would also like to open the floor to discussion on any additional policies you feel might be useful for us to have. We haven't had any problems yet for which we have had to fall back on policy, but I'd like to get them confirmed if we can to head such problems off at the pass! Meur ras. --Gwikor Frank (keskows) 15:26, 14 Est 2021 (UTC)[reply]

For myself, the only policy I would like to add to these is a policy along the lines of mandating that Kernow be used as the country for all articles about things/people/etc. in Cornish and disallowing England as being used in this manner. This hasn't really been a problem so far, but enwiki has a big problem with listing Cornish places as being in England or referring to "Cornwall, England" and I'd like to make sure we can't have that problem here. Your input on wording of this policy, if you agree, would be very helpful. Please add whether you would support this or any comments you may have. I very much want any discussion on policy here to be democratic, particularly where adding policy is concerned. Meur ras. --Gwikor Frank (keskows) 15:29, 14 Est 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Very much agree. Not sure of the wording. Perhaps Llywelyn2000 can help. Brwynog (keskows) 16:06, 14 Est 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Would also support this. We'd need a bit of a checklist as to what is OK (see the correct/redundant examples here) and what isn't of the different options (and in different contexts) - e.g. Cornwall, United Kingdom has different connotations to Cornwall, England; the way we put things in infoboxes might be different to in plain text etc. Probably worth a separate discussion to be honest. Gazamp (keskows) 18:38, 14 Est 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Also, I think it would be really good for us to have a rudimentary deletion policy now we have an admin - we might not need it now, but it's worth thinking about before we have to! Again, a separate discussion would probably be worth it to thrash out the details. Gazamp (keskows) 18:40, 14 Est 2021 (UTC)[reply]
A separate discussion for this and for a deletion policy makes sense. Perhaps if I slightly condense the policies we have as working policies now as so:
  • Cornish Wikipedia is not the place for spelling disputes unless it impacts the site.
  • For articles, any orthography is accepted. Do not change the orthography of an article to another one, unless you are making significant edits/additions and are proficient in the current orthography of the article.
  • For categories, the Wiki interface and other organisation/navigation elements, Cornish should be in the Standard Written Form (SWF) using main variants. This will make organisation and navigation throughout the Wiki easier.
...we could discuss supporting/not supporting/supporting with amendments these so that we have a place to start and then go on to further discussions later, then? --Gwikor Frank (keskows) 19:52, 14 Est 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Support - I like the balance of freedom of expression and ease of use that these policies give us and I have been operating as if they were set in place anyway tbh. --Gwikor Frank (keskows) 19:54, 14 Est 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Support: Thought these had been set in place! In any case, they should be - just makes sense. Gazamp (keskows) 21:09, 14 Est 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Following this discussion I have tidied up the policies page. If you've any comments, go ahead! We'll discuss a deletion policy next? --Gwikor Frank (keskows) 14:14, 17 Est 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Can the policies page have an English translation too please - my reading isn't quite that good yet! Meur ras, Gazamp (keskows) 16:38, 17 Est 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Good shout! Will add it. --Gwikor Frank (keskows) 19:47, 17 Est 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Added a translation. Then decided to put the translation in a collapsible template. This means we can keep Kwiki very Kernewek while still helping learners follow what is going on. :) --Gwikor Frank (keskows) 20:04, 17 Est 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Perfect meur ras! Gazamp (keskows) 17:44, 20 Est 2021 (UTC)[reply]

KWikiWriMo 2021[pennfenten]

KWikiWriMo yw Kernewek Wikipedia Writing Month (Mis Skrifa Wikipedia Kernewek) hag yw an chalenj bledhynnyek rag Wikipedia Kernewek a hwer pub mis Du. Y hyllowgh kavos manylyon a-dro dhe'n chalenj 2021 omma Wikipedia:KWikiWriMo.

KWikiWriMo is Kernewek Wikipedia Writing Month and is a yearly challenge for Cornish Wikipedia that takes place each November. You can find the details about the 2021 challenge here Wikipedia:KWikiWriMo. Brwynog (keskows) 21:15, 02 Hedra 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Meur ras bras rag KWikiWriMo 2021 pur sewenus. Mars yw ow reknans ewn, ni a wrug moy es 270 erthygel nowydh, golegi lower moy, ha klassa meur anedha. Gwrys yn ta dhe GwikorFrank ha Brwynog rag skrifa 30+ erthygel dres mis Du. Gazamp, LaderGwiader, Diworth North ha AdamWheel a skrifas yntra 10-20, Gourmas, Boghblogh, AQChampion (a glassas dres 60 erthygel) a skrifas yntra 5-9, ha KathikDu, LutherBen, SteveWaring, KowanByghan, LethwasUskis, Cindri2, UtopianChris, Jim94577 ha Lostgwennol yntra 1 ha 4. Y feu re a wolegansow rag nivera, ha fest pes da ov kemmys a dus dhe gemeres rann. Brwynog (keskows) 00.00, 02 Kevardhu 2021 (UTC)

Many thanks for a hugely successful KWikiWriMo 2021. If my calculations are correct then we have created over 270 new articles, edited many more, and sorted many of them into classes. Well done to GwikorFrank and Brwynog on writing 30+ articles during November. Gazamp, LaderGwiader, Diworth North and AdamWheel wrote between 10-20, Gourmas, Boghblogh, AQChampion (who also categorised over 60 articles) wrote between 5-9, and KathikDu, LutherBen, SteveWaring, KowanByghan, LethwasUskis, Cindri2, UtopianChris, Jim94577 and Lostgwennol between 1 and 4. There have been too many edits for me to count, and I am very pleased that so many of you took part. Brwynog (keskows) 00.00, 02 Kevardhu 2021 (UTC)