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Kovskrifen 2004-2008 2009-2012 2012-2017 2018-2021 Folen dre 2005 - 2017

Wiki Loves Folklore is back!

Please help translate to your language

You are humbly invited to participate in the Wiki Loves Folklore 2022 an international photography contest organized on Wikimedia Commons to document folklore and intangible cultural heritage from different regions, including, folk creative activities and many more. It is held every year from the 1st till the 28th of February.

You can help in enriching the folklore documentation on Commons from your region by taking photos, audios, videos, and submitting them in this commons contest.

You can also organize a local contest in your country and support us in translating the project pages to help us spread the word in your native language.

Feel free to contact us on our project Talk page if you need any assistance.

Kind regards,

Wiki loves Folklore International Team

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Kovskrifen nowydh

Na wrewgh ania! An folen ma a dhallathas bos pur hir, ytho, herwydh an ensampel a wolegydhyon kyns, my re wrug kovskrifen rag bledhynnyow 2018-2021 hag yw kevrynnys oma (gwelewgh an varren gledh). Don't fret! This page was beginning to get very long and so, following the example of previous editors, I've made an archive for years 2018-2021 which is linked here (see left side bar). --Gwikor Frank (keskows) 11:57, 1 Hwevrer 2022 (UTC)

Nowedhyans Menystrer

Dydh da, oll. Yth esov ow fostya omma yn kever ow bodh dhe besya bos menystrer agan wiki arta. Ytho, mar mynnowgh dadhla hemma, herwydh an polisi, gwrewgh mar pleg! Hello, all. I am posting here about my wish to continue being an administrator of our wiki again. So, if you want to discuss this, following the policy, please do! --Gwikor Frank (keskows) 11:59, 1 Hwevrer 2022 (UTC)

Yth esos ow kul ober marthys. Y tal dhis pesya bos menystrer, y'm breus vy. Brwynog (keskows) 21:18, 1 Hwevrer 2022 (UTC)

Happy to support your continued adminship, meur ras bras for all your hard work. Gazamp (keskows) 16:28, 2 Hwevrer 2022 (UTC)

P'eur a allav vy treylya artiklow kernowek?

Dydh da. My a assayas treylya artikel kernowek yn sowsnek hedhyw mes ny allav vy y dhyllo drefen nag ov pennskrifores wikipedya eksperyansys lowr, ha rag henna my a vynnsa godhvos p'eur my a yll dyllo ow treylyans an artikel ha pyseul a eksperyans eus res dhymm kavos ow kolegi artiklow kernowek yn wikipedya.

@Ehsai: No experience is necessary, so you can start at any time. If you have questions you can ask them on our talk pages. Please sign your user name on talk pages by typing four tildes. Aqchampion (keskows) 03:26, 26 Hwevrer 2022 (UTC)

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Editing news 2022 #1

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New editors were more successful with this new tool.

The New topic tool helps editors create new ==Sections== on discussion pages. New editors are more successful with this new tool. You can read the report. Soon, the Editing team will offer this to all editors at the 20 Wikipedias that participated in the test. You will be able to turn it off at Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-editing-discussion.

Whatamidoing (WMF) 18:55, 2 Me 2022 (UTC)

Celtic Knot 2022 update and scholarships

Celtic Knot Conference update: the call for program contributions is now open! If you’re involved in activities related to minority languages and Wikimedia projects, you can send your contribution to the “News from the Language Communities” lightning talks until May 31.

We also have updates on the format of the conference and scholarships for participation in the online conference and for organizing an onsite satellite event.

Check the full announcement on the event’s talk page: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Celtic_Knot_Conference_2022#Celtic_Knot_Conference%3A_program_contributions_and_onsite_events

If you have any questions, feel free to contact the organizers: Daria Cybulska, Richard Nevell or Léa Lacroix. Looking forward to seeing you involved at the Celtic Knot! Richard Nevell (keskows) 16:45, 6 Me 2022 (UTC)

Lightning talks

Hi folks, the upcoming deadline for lighting talks is 31 May. We're after 5-minute pre-recorded videos with news from the project, or what you've been up to. We'll be showcasing the videos on the first day of the conference. You can record the video yourself and send it to the organisers, or I'd be happy to have a Zoom call and record it for you. Feel free to get in touch via richard.nevell@wikimedia.org.uk. Richard Nevell (keskows) 16:56, 27 Me 2022 (UTC)

Automatic generate population

The following code can be placed on any location article without change, and will generate the most recent census result with sources:

{{WD Population}}

Just copy and paste! See Kardydh for example. You can redirect the template to another, better, kw name, of course. PS It's outlawed from en-wiki, so it must be good! Mwynhewch! Llywelyn2000 (keskows) 10:55, 26 Me 2022 (UTC)

Ardderchog, diolch! That looks incredibly useful. Meur ras! Gwikor Frank (keskows) 12:02, 26 Me 2022 (UTC)

Meur ras. Fest dhe les. Very useful and I'm sure I'll be using it a lot. Brwynog (keskows) 12:24, 26 Me 2022 (UTC)

A small present for you!

Mat an traoù ganit?

Dw i wedi creu templad bach i chi adio i erthyglau ar lefydd ee trefi, gwledydd. Jyst rhowch o yn lle'r boblogaeth. Gweler: Kardydh.

I've created a small template you can add on places such as towns, cities or even countries. Just add it and it will generate the most recent population and a citation. You could rename into Brezoneg.

{{WD Population}}

Mwynhewch! Dim rhaid diweddaru! Enjoy! You will never need to update!

Cofion cynnes a devezh vat dit!

Robin aka... Llywelyn2000 (keskows) 16:37, 26 Me 2022 (UTC)

Efallai rwyt ti eisiau ail-bostio hwn i'r Davarn Brezhoneg, Robin Brwynog (keskows) 20:29, 26 Me 2022 (UTC)

Ti'n iawn hefyd! Diolch! Mae hwn yn gweithio rwan ar bob un o'r ieithoedd Celtaidd! Llywelyn2000 (keskows) 13:19, 27 Me 2022 (UTC)

Polici dilea

In English for clarity at all levels: I'm finally getting to circling back to some of the policy stuff we very briefly discussed here. One of them was a deletion policy. So, let's discuss that?

My own opinions are, essentially, that correction/improvement is preferable in almost all cases to deletion. We're not a big enough Wiki to delete short, poor or niche articles and I think that doing so would run counter to what I am always telling new/prospective editors: your Cornish IS good enough and anything is something.

I think that deletion should be reserved for:

• Pages in the wrong language
• Exceptionally short articles (one sentence or less) on extremely niche topics

As an example of the latter, this. I didn't delete it in the end, I improved it slightly to this. I do still think this is an article that could be deleted.

Perhaps someone would want to improve things like this, though? I do think that there should be some kind of grace period for articles like this where we try to find someone who is up for the task of adding a couple of sentences to the article and it is perhaps only deleted if this can't be done.

Anyway, I know this was something we wanted to discuss, so please let me know your thoughts. --Gwikor Frank (keskows) 14:24, 28 Me 2022 (UTC)

Bendigedig! That's more or less what we do on cy-Weiki too, Gwikor! A period of grace, a second chance for them or others to improve the article. We have a small banner which we put on the article using the word {{Gwella}} which suggests that that the article should be improved otherwise it could be taken down. We wait a few weeks (I think there's a back-log of a few months actually!) then we delete. We have a two paragraph minimum too. We also delete crap which is obviously done by Google Translate, or as vandalism, immediately. At the end of the day, you as a Wiki can create any rules you like, so don't listen to me! If you need help with banners etc let me know. Llywelyn2000 (keskows) 15:33, 30 Me 2022 (UTC)

Eus lies erthygel niche a'n par na? Res yw bos an niver anedha mar vyghan may hyllyn aga gwellhe pan wrellons apperya yn le aga dilea! --Lader Gwiader (keskows) 00:00, 31 Me 2022 (UTC)

Dell hevel dhymm, nag eus. Ny welis vy ken onan a-der an huni kevrennys. Gwikor Frank (keskows) 10:39, 1 Metheven 2022 (UTC)

Zoom session for all Celtic language Wikipedia editors!

Hirneth heb dha weles!

Sorry this message is in English! User:Brwynog (Cornish Wikipedia) and myself are organising a Zoom meeting on Tuesday 7th June at 7.00, and all regular editors at all Celtic language Wikipedias (WPs) are invited. We will be discussing ideas on putting together an Editathon which will be held in September. If you want to join us you will need to email me to get the link.

What's an editathon?

The Cornish and Welsh editors held an editathon together with the Palestinian editors a few months ago. This is what we did at that time.

How to wiki-email?

My email is turned on. If yours is, then all you need to do is go to my user page. Then go to the menu bar on the left, just under the WP logo, down to Tools, then find Email this user. Just let me know you need that you want the Zoom link.

No email?

To turn on your email, go to your preference (Top) to the right of your User name. In preferences, the fist tab is 'User profile': go down to email and add your email. Simply done!

Last resort

Just email me at wicipediacymraeg @ gmail.com (remove the white space)

I look forward to seeing you at this really important meeting! Bring a smile! Yeghes da a lowena dhywgh!

Robin aka... Llywelyn2000 (keskows) 15:22, 30 Me 2022 (UTC)

Dydh da!

Just a reminder to those who have not registered, please do so! !5 editors have asked for a link, so if they all turn up, it could be the beginning of something really good. Just wiki-email me and I'll send you the link! Hwyl! Dha weles! Llywelyn2000 (keskows) 12:29, 6 Metheven 2022 (UTC)

Celtic Knot Conference 1–2 July 2022: registration is now open

Hello everyone,

This year's Celtic Knot Conference is fast approaching. We've got workshops, updates from the community, and opportunities to connect with fellow Wikimedians working on language diversity. Registration is open, and we hope to see you there: https://www.eventbrite.com/e/337125239667

Richard Nevell (keskows) 13:47, 14 Metheven 2022 (UTC)

Hafan / Main page

@Gwikor Frank: asks for help on my cywiki talk page regarding Erthyglow chonsus. Diolch i ti Gwikor ! The skantlyn in question is Skantlyn:Erthyglow chonsus, but the code is in Skantlyn:Erthyglow chonsus/Koden which calls up a number of individual tit-bits eg Skantlyn:Erthyglow chonsus/A/1. @Lader Gwiader: I'll take a look at this in a minute, but I've never tried to do this in the past. I have however added 'Ar y dydd hwn... / 'On this day...' which feeds the info alive + relevant to each day. We have Darvosow y'n mis ma so adding a monthly, automated short list could be done quickly. The next stage would be getting one or two bits of information for each day, for (let's say) the next two months. It would be a long term project so that at least 1 new 'On this day...' would appear every day of the year. On the cywiki we try and get half relevant to Cymru, and the rest are international. Let me know if you're interested and we'll make a draft / spoof front page to test. There is also an 'Image a day' on Commons, which can be translated there, and fed into kw-wiki automatically. They're really great images and bring loads of colour. Maybe we should get it on cywiki too, one day! Llywelyn2000 (keskows) 13:04, 16 Metheven 2022 (UTC)

Dw i wedi chwilio am y sgript a fewnforiwyd heb lwc! Sorry, I can't find anything about getting an automated, random feed into a page; we can easily generate a button for the user to click, but that's no good here! Ymddiheuriadau! Bt I do think 'On this day...' would bring it alive, should you neeed it. Llywelyn2000 (keskows) 14:53, 16 Metheven 2022 (UTC)

Just made a spoof for your Yey" or Ney"! The important bit is {{Darvosow y'n mis ma/{{CURRENTMONTHNAME}}}} which has two elements: a Skantlyn and changing {{CURRENTMONTHNAME}}, which together call up the relevant monthly info. If you do go ahead, then other months need to be created; we already have around six. @Lader Gwiader: seems to be doing great work with templates; it would be good to have his / her take on developing this home page further. Llywelyn2000 (keskows) 15:59, 16 Metheven 2022 (UTC)

That looks great! I think having something that changes might pull people's interest a bit. I also really like the idea of the image a day too, something visual always looks good. Gwikor Frank (keskows) 22:11, 16 Metheven 2022 (UTC)

Not a problem, thank you so much for looking. I've seen it elsewhere, so I might go an see if I can remember where I've seen it and ask there. Diolch yn fawr am dy help. Gwikor Frank (keskows) 22:09, 16 Metheven 2022 (UTC)

There was a random picture of the day on the old Pennfolen, and I had plans to do random articles but I never finished it as I wanted to use full articles not stubs. The code must still be around somewhere. Getting it to display random articles is the easy bit, the issue is having enough good articles with lots of content and blue links instead of red. There are more active users here than 10 years ago so it should be much easier now! --Lader Gwiader (keskows) 06:03, 18 Metheven 2022 (UTC)

Perhaps rather than have a fully random article, it would be possible to have it choose from a collection of 100 or so articles which aren't stubs. Is that possible? There are plenty of categories with decent size articles now. Brwynog (keskows) 13:08, 18 Metheven 2022 (UTC)

Yes, we could start with a few articles across 5 categories, perhaps two for Cornwall-related articles, one for other Celtic-related articles, and two for everything else. Then we can add more to the rotation later on, or change it as desired. Lader Gwiader (keskows) 02:47, 20 Metheven 2022 (UTC)

Great idea, both! Gwikor Frank (keskows) 00:24, 21 Metheven 2022 (UTC)

Constructive Editing

Dydh da oll, yn Sowsnek rag bos kler dhe bubonan:

Following a tidal wave of unhelpful edits by one user, I thought it timely to talk about what I hope are some fairly uncontroversial thoughts on constructive editing, which nonetheless need to be stated, it seems. Discussion is, of course, welcome. If the community disagrees on the whole with the below, fair enough. If we're very much in agreement, it may be worth putting something into policy.

- Do not edit articles just to change legitimate Cornish to different legitimate Cornish. We already have policy on this as regards orthographies, but this also extends to, say, changing diwotti to tavern, or vice versa, or changing 'haval dhe' to 'haval orth', or vice versa. Cornish you don't personally like is not a poor standard of Cornish and this is just a waste of valuable time and effort, besides being likely to cause resentment.

- Editing another user's userpages or sandboxes, even to 'correct' their Cornish is absolutely not acceptable, unless you have been asked to do so (and can provide evidence of this if asked).

Meur ras dhywgh oll, on the whole some wonderful work is being done here, so let's be proud! Gwikor Frank (keskows) 22:06, 16 Metheven 2022 (UTC)

Meur ras Gwikor Frank. The editor in question had already received advice about deleting pages from a previous administrator, and had ignored advice from me a number of times. Some of the hundreds of edits to my pages were legitimate, and therefore helpful (nobody wants to publish faulty Cornish), but the editor in question seemed to have no idea about questions of writing style, and insisted on changing every case of what they considered to be a 'mistake'. Thanks also for correcting so many of the edits made. Brwynog (keskows) 22:20, 16 Metheven 2022 (UTC)

Templates / Skantlyns

Does anyone know how to produce a quote box for Cornish wikipedia.

Also, when listing election results for a constituency, how can one add lines for majority and turn-out. The basic template is to be found, e.g. on this page https://kw.wikipedia.org/wiki/Na_h-Eileanan_an_Iar_(pastel_vro_Senedhek_RU)

Thanks in advance for any help received. Brwynog (keskows) 23:03, 17 Gortheren 2022 (UTC)

My a gopias dew skantlyn dhyworth an Wikipedia Sowsnek, Skantlyn:Etholans boks majorita ha Skantlyn:Etholans boks turnout, ha'ga heworra dhe sewyans 2019 y'n folen na avel ensampel. Y hyllir kopia kist devyn ynwedh, py par eus hwans dhis? Lader Gwiader (keskows) 09:05, 19 Gortheren 2022 (UTC)

Bryntin. A yll'ta kopia an kist devyn ynwedh? Ny wonn fatel y wul. Gromersi dhis. Brwynog (keskows) 12:13, 19 Gortheren 2022 (UTC)

Yma Skantlyn:Kist devyn lemmyn, gans an keth parameters hag an huni Sowsnek. Lader Gwiader (keskows) 00:49, 21 Gortheren 2022 (UTC)

Meur ras. Ottomma ow erthygel gans Kist devyn: Hogen Ster-Lagatta Steve Waring (keskows) 13:53, 31 Gortheren 2022 (UTC)

Also, could someone copy over the Infobox hiking trail for me, or provide details of how to copy over templates (rather than how to create them) - Thanks in advance. Steve Waring (keskows) 17:57, 4 Est 2022 (UTC)