Wikipedia:An tavern

An Tavern

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Dynnargh dhe davern Wikipedya, le rag govynnow, profyansow, gweres ha kows ollgemmyn a-dro dhe Wikipedya.

• Rag gorthebi messajys, klyckyewgh war an gevren "chanjya". Mar pleg, sinewgh agas messajys gans peswar tilde (~~~~), po klyckyewgh war an boton .

• Klyckyewgh omma rag dalleth messach nowyth

22:54:17 (Termyn an servyer)

Purjya an folen-ma

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Kovskrifen 2004-2008 2009-2012 2012-2017 Folen dre 2005 - 2017

Orgraf an wiki

A yllyn ni ervira war unn orgraf dhe usya rag ynterfas an wiki? Pan esen omma an diwettha tro, skrifys veu yn swf/m, mes lemmyn yth yw yn swf/t. Ny dal an wiasva-ma bos stankva rag neb oll yw gorgemerys gans lytherennans, ytho gwren akordya war unn orgraf rag an ynterfas hag y witha. Py orgraf yw da genowgh? --Morlader (kescows) 12:21, 15 Kevardhu 2012 (UTC)

Ny wora'vy piw usi orth y janjya, da via genam usya SWF/M. Mars yw nebes moy tus unnver gans hebma, martesen ni a ell keworra rowl obma. Moon (kescows) 01:11, 16 Kevardhu 2012 (UTC)

Wel, ogas ha SWF/T po SWF/M yw, mes yn gwiryonedh kler yw na wodhons lytherenna mann, an dus a janj an orgraf ha'n erthyglow - kynth yw lytherennans pur poesek dhedha, dell hevel! Ha treweythyow euthyk kamm yw an Kernewek, mes yndella yth yw an Wikipedia Kernewek. Gwell via an SWF/M heb dhout drefenn bos honna devnydhys rag 'taklow poblek' herwydh MAGA. Mes mars yw chanjys arta nebonan a wra diswul an chanjyow - gwari teg mes gokki.2.31.129.55 18:16, 14 Genver 2013 (UTC)

Menystrer

Drefen bos an wiki ma ow kweles moy devnydh a-gynsow, my a grys y'n jeves edhom a venystrer, ytho my re wovynnas hedhas menystrer arta omma [1]. --Moon (keskows) 21:49, 15 Metheven 2013 (UTC)

Klassys

My a wor y hyll tus skrifa erthyglow y'n orgraf y honan, mes a ny via gwell kavos pub klass y'n FSS? Payn gwir y'n din yw hwilas hanow an klass y'n wiki kyns y geworra dhe erthyglow. A yllyn ni akordya war rewl nowyth? --Morlader (keskows) 14:53, 11 Gortheren 2013 (UTC)

Nyns eus denvyth omma sos! 109.176.182.126 04:10, 21 Gortheren 2013 (UTC)

Yth esos tejy... --Morlader (keskows) 09:05, 25 Gortheren 2013 (UTC)

Chanjyow dhe'n Folenn Dre

Ottomma nebes chanjyow a dal bos gwrys dhe'n folenn dre (henn yw, kepar dell yw hedhyw. Piw a woer fatell vydh a-vorow):
dhe weres dhyn -> dh'agan gweres
yn unn welhe -> dre welhe
hag yn unn ynkressya -> ha der ynkressya
war an kesrosweyth -> y'n kesrosweyth
an guntel -> an kuntel
a'n jeves an wiasva -> a's teves an wiasva
rol dien -> rol dhien
an kemeneth -> an gemeneth
hwans dhe dhyski -> hwans a dhyski
devnydhyoryon byw -> devnydhyoryon vyw
2.29.33.251 20:19, 28 Gortheren 2013 (UTC)

Tus a dhevnydh an wiasva a ervir war dhesin an bennfolen, mar ny'n devnydhydh, ny'th eus gwir dhe grodhvola pan vo chanjyes. Nyns esov mes owth assaya dri nebes kessenyans dhe'n wiasva, ha herdhya an kudynnow orgrafek yn termyn eus passyes. Meur ras rag an ewnheansow, my a skrifas an tekst yn unn fistena (gans "hwans" y hyllir devnydhya "a" po "dhe" aga dhew, mes my a'n chanjyas dhe "a" rag gwitha an kres). Martesen da via genes gwruthyl akont ha dalleth skrifa nebes erthyglow? --Moon (keskows) 20:46, 28 Gortheren 2013 (UTC)

Mes nyns yw henna gwir! Unn person a ervir desin an bennfolen. Ha hi (ha'y lytherennieth) a janj pub tri mis. Mes gweth ages henna, yma tus a vynn chanjya ger po lavar omma ha ger po lavar ena y'n erthyglow (heb konvedhes an pyth a wrons, heb mar) - ny vern mars eus polisi erbynn fara a'n par na. Ha rakhenna yma lemmyn erthyglow skrifys yn neb kemmysk euthyk a lytherenniethow.
My a skrifas erthyglow rag an Wikipedia ma nans yw termyn hir, mes ena an vroweghysi lytherennans a dheuth ha shyndya lies erthygel ha lemmyn ny vynnav skoelya an termyn ow skrifa erthyglow a vydh chanjys herwydh bodh nebonan na woer ogas ha travyth a-dro dhe'n yeth mes a gris bos neb chanj gwiw drefenn ev/hi dhe redya neppyth a-dro dhodho y'n kesroesweyth. Mes chons da, Moon. Mar kyllydh dri kessenyans dhe'n Wikipedia kernewek ha gul vri a bub eghenn a Gernewek, martesen lies den a wra skrifa erthyglow y'n termyn a dheu.

Branvras (keskows) 10:21, 29 Gortheren 2013 (UTC)

Wel, unn berson a dhevnydh an wiasva war an diwedh, ytho unn berson a ervir desin an bennfolen! Ny via an bennfolen chanjyes a-dhia mis Me 2012, ytho neb peswardhek mis. A ny brederydh hi dhe heveli gwell lemmyn? Drehevys yw an wiasva gans an dus a's devnydh, ytho nyns yw marnas skeus a'y devnydhyoryon. Mars yw deray, yndella yth yw hy devnydhyoryon! Yma moy es 2,500 erthygel, ny allav aga hempenna oll ow honan (my a'm beus bewnans). Mar prederydh bos skoll a dermyn ynkressya an myns a Gernewek war an kesrosweyth, po gwruthyl asnodh warlinen a yll tus devnydhya rag gwellhe aga Hernewek (pypynag a vo studh Kernewek an wiasva y'n pols-ma), wel dha dhewis jy yw. --Moon (keskows) 16:48, 29 Gortheren 2013 (UTC)

Leverys yn ta, Branvras. Nyns yw es perthi an chanjyow heb us a welyn omma (rag ensampel: avon - river - ryver - dowr - avon arta; kernewek - kernowek - kernowak - kernewek arta; yma ensamplow erell, heb mar). Nyns yw an ger y honan an kudynn. Mar mynn nebonan skrifa 'kernewek' po 'kernowek' po 'curnowak' y tal bos gesys yndella heb chanjyow didhiwedh. Ha'n brassa kudynn yw, pan yw neppyth chanjys y'n vaner na, spas 'owrek' yw rag 'bresel flamm' dhe sordya ha ny hwer henna saw awos fowt a bennskriforyon. My a aswonn tus na vynn dos dhe'n wiasva ma drefenn bos an fara na mar annius.
Moon, nyns ens marnas profyansow. Mars yw 'hwans dhe' gwell genes (ha kevys yw y'n tekstow, dhe wir) res yw dhis y asa yndella. Ny vynnav dadhla a-dro dhe'n kas (kyn lever an brassa rann a dus 'hwans A neppyth', orth ow brys vy :-) ). 2.29.33.251 20:26, 29 Gortheren 2013 (UTC)

Blah blah blah. Yma mater brassa omma, nyns yw oll an flows ma a-dro dhe lytherenieth ha breselyow flamm mes red herring. Ny'm beus hwans a dhadhla hemma namoy. Yma chons dhe wruthyl asnodh splann rag Kernewegoryon. Hwi a'gas beus dewis, Branvras ha'n IP dihanow, kepar ha tus freth erel na vynn dos dhe'n wiasva: hwi a yll gweres dhe dhisplegya an wiasva rag Kernewegoryon oll, po hwi a yll bos heb gul tra vyth omma marnas krodhvola y'n folennow keskows. My, ha piwpynag ken a gevro, a bes genowgh po hebdhowgh. --Moon (keskows) 21:05, 30 Gortheren 2013 (UTC)

Notices

The various notes, notices and announcements left here over the last few years have been moved to an archive. Arthur Kerensa (keskows) 16:29, 4 Kevardhu 2017 (UTC)

Editing News #1—2018

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Did you know?

Did you know that you can now use the visual diff tool on any page?

Sometimes, it is hard to see important changes in a wikitext diff. This screenshot of a wikitext diff (click to enlarge) shows that the paragraphs have been rearranged, but it does not highlight the removal of a word or the addition of a new sentence.

If you enable the Beta Feature for "Visual differences", you will have a new option. It will give you a new box at the top of every diff page. This box will let you choose either diff system on any edit.

Click the toggle button to switch between visual and wikitext diffs.

In the visual diff, additions, removals, new links, and formatting changes will be highlighted. Other changes, such as changing the size of an image, are described in notes on the side.

This screenshot shows the same edit as the wikitext diff. The visual diff highlights the removal of one word and the addition of a new sentence.

You can read and help translate the user guide, which has more information about how to use the visual editor.

Since the last newsletter, the Editing Team has spent most of their time supporting the 2017 wikitext editor mode, which is available inside the visual editor as a Beta Feature, and improving the visual diff tool. Their work board is available in Phabricator. You can find links to the work finished each week at mw:VisualEditor/Weekly triage meetings. Their current priorities are fixing bugs, supporting the 2017 wikitext editor, and improving the visual diff tool.

Recent changes

• The 2017 wikitext editor is available as a Beta Feature on desktop devices. It has the same toolbar as the visual editor and can use the citoid service and other modern tools. The team have been comparing the performance of different editing environments. They have studied how long it takes to open the page and start typing. The study uses data for more than one million edits during December and January. Some changes have been made to improve the speed of the 2017 wikitext editor and the visual editor. Recently, the 2017 wikitext editor opened fastest for most edits, and the 2010 WikiEditor was fastest for some edits. More information will be posted at mw:Contributors/Projects/Editing performance.
• The visual diff tool was developed for the visual editor. It is now available to all users of the visual editor and the 2017 wikitext editor. When you review your changes, you can toggle between wikitext and visual diffs. You can also enable the new Beta Feature for "Visual diffs". The Beta Feature lets you use the visual diff tool to view other people's edits on page histories and Special:RecentChanges. [2]
• Wikitext syntax highlighting is available as a Beta Feature for both the 2017 wikitext editor and the 2010 wikitext editor. [3]
• The citoid service automatically translates URLs, DOIs, ISBNs, and PubMed id numbers into wikitext citation templates. It is very popular and useful to editors, although it can be a bit tricky to set up. Your wiki can have this service. Please read the instructions. You can ask the team to help you enable citoid at your wiki.

Let's work together

• The team will talk about editing tools at an upcoming Wikimedia Foundation metrics and activities meeting.
• Wikibooks, Wikiversity, and other communities may have the visual editor made available by default to contributors. If your community wants this, then please contact Dan Garry.
• The <references /> block can automatically display long lists of references in columns on wide screens. This makes footnotes easier to read. You can request multi-column support for your wiki. [4]
• If you aren't reading this in your preferred language, then please help us with translations! Subscribe to the Translators mailing list or contact us directly. We will notify you when the next issue is ready for translation. Thank you!

—Elitre (WMF)

20:56, 2 Meurth 2018 (UTC)

Galicia 15 - 15 Challenge

Wikipedia:Galicia 15 - 15 Challenge is a public writing competition which will improve improve and translate this list of 15 really important articles into as many languages as possible. Everybody can help in any language to collaborate on writing and/or translating articles related to Galicia. To participate you just need to sign up here. Thank you very much.--Breogan2008 (keskows) 14:16, 12 Meurth 2018 (UTC)

RCAT

Redirects such as (Truro - Truru) can now be categorised using {{R sowsnek}}. Emblyn II (keskows) 09:50, 27 Meurth 2018 (UTC)

Whowww!

Braf gweld llawer o waith yn digwydd ar eich Wicipedia! Bendigedig! I'm really glad to see so much happening here these days. I'm mainly on the Welsh Wikipedia, so if you need anything - any help in any way - just ask! Llywelyn2000 (keskows) 12:54, 28 Meurth 2018 (UTC)

Hi! We are doing three main projects at the moment; the Wikipedia:Kernow page which lists all the towns, villages and existing hamlets in Kernow; a possible update to the main page; and an infobox for UK places which is based on the infobox used on the Sowsnek Wikipedya. The last set of infoboxes was 10 years ago so a lot of modules and things it relies on are being imported. Emblyn II (keskows) 15:38, 28 Meurth 2018 (UTC)

Welcome to Wales! The Celtic Knot Conference...

I apologise that this invitation is in English; feel free to translate into your own language!

I would like to invite you to the second Wikipedia language conference focusing on supporting Celtic and other small and Indigenous Languages. This year 'Celtic Knot' will be at held on the 5th and 6th of July at the National Library of Wales in Wales' most famous seaside resort of Aberystwyth.

For more information on how you could be part of this great event, pop over to our website where you can also contact Jason Evans, our National Wikimedian and conference organiser. We have many speakers who will talk about what works for them, how we can learn from each other... small is beautiful...

Viva la diversity! Llywelyn2000 (keskows) 13:21, 4 Ebrel 2018 (UTC)

Time to bring embedded maps (‘mapframe’) to most Wikipedias

Time to bring embedded maps (‘mapframe’) to most Wikipedias

Please help translate to your language

Mapframe is a feature that enables users to easily display interactive maps right on wiki pages. Currently, most Wikipedias don’t have mapframe. But fifteen Wikipedias, along with all the other Wikimedia projects, are using mapframe today to display maps on thousands of pages.

A little background: over the last few months, the Foundation’s Collaboration team has been working to improve the stability and user experience of the maps service. In addition, a question about long-term support for the maps service was recently settled, and a small team has been assigned for routine maintenance. Given these developments, bringing the benefits of mapframe to Wikipedias that lack the feature seems both safe and supportable. Nine Wikipedias that use a stricter version of Flagged Revisions will not get mapframe in this release.

Maps are a valuable form of visual data that can improve readers’ understanding across a wide range of topics. If you know of any reasons why mapframe shouldn’t be implemented on your Wikipedia, let us know on the project talk page. Unless we hear from you, we plan to release mapframe to most Wikipedias in May, 2018. So, if you foresee an issue, please let us hear from you. Otherwise, happy mapping!

CKoerner (WMF) (talk) 21:38, 24 Ebrel 2018 (UTC)

New Wikipedia Library Accounts Available Now (May 2018)

Hello Wikimedians!

The TWL OWL says sign up today!

The Wikipedia Library is announcing signups today for free, full-access, accounts to research and tools as part of our Publisher Donation Program. You can sign up for new accounts and research materials on the Library Card platform:

• Rock's Backpages – Music articles and interviews from the 1950s onwards - 50 accounts
• Invaluable – Database of more than 50 million auctions and over 500,000 artists - 15 accounts
• Termsoup – Translation tool

Expansions

• Fold3 – Available content has more than doubled, now including new military collections from the UK, Australia, and New Zealand.
• Oxford University Press – The Scholarship collection now includes Electronic Enlightenment
• Alexander Street Press – Women and Social Movements Library now available
• Cambridge University Press – Orlando Collection now available

Many other partnerships with accounts available are listed on our partners page, including Baylor University Press, Loeb Classical Library, Cairn, Gale and Bloomsbury.

Do better research and help expand the use of high quality references across Wikipedia projects: sign up today!
--The Wikipedia Library Team 18:03, 30 Me 2018 (UTC)

You can host and coordinate signups for a Wikipedia Library branch in your own language. Please contact Ocaasi (WMF).

This message was delivered via the Global Mass Message tool to The Wikipedia Library Global Delivery List.

Update on page issues on mobile web

Update on page issues on mobile web

Please help translate to your language Hi everyone. The Readers web team has recently begun working on exposing issue templates on the mobile website. Currently, details about issues with page content are generally hidden on the mobile website. This leaves readers unaware of the reliability of the pages they are reading. The goal of this project is to improve awareness of particular issues within an article on the mobile web. We will do this by changing the visual styling of page issues.

So far, we have drafted a proposal on the design and implementation of the project. We were also able to run user testing on the proposed designs. The tests so far have positive results. Here is a quick summary of what we learned:

• The new treatment increases awareness of page issues among participants. This is true particularly when they are in a more evaluative/critical mode.
• Page issues make sense to readers and they understand how they work
• Readers care about page issues and consider them important
• Readers had overwhelmingly positive sentiments towards Wikipedia associated with learning about page issues

Our next step would be to start implementing these changes. We wanted to reach out to you for any concerns, thoughts, and suggestions you might have before beginning development. Please visit the project page where we have more information and mockups of how this may look. Please leave feedback on the talk page.

CKoerner (WMF) (talk) 20:58, 12 Metheven 2018 (UTC)

Renew adminship

Hi, I've made a request to renew my adminship on the kw wiki. It's been a few years but there's some new interest in what it can do for the Cornish speaking community so it seems like a good time to get stuck back in. Anyone who sees this message is welcome to add comments of support or opposition! --Moon (keskows) 03:32, 6 Gortheren 2018 (UTC)

Enabling a helpful feature for Template editors

Hello.

The team working on TemplateStyles at the Wikimedia Foundation would like to enable TemplateStyles on this wiki.

TemplateStyles is a feature to allow non-administrators to write and manage CSS styles for templates. It allows contributors who edit templates to separate content and presentation. A good web practice that makes it easier to manage the layout of templates. If you don't edit templates, this will not have any impact on your contributions.

TemplateStyles is useful for a few reasons.

• It makes it possible for templates to work better on mobile.
• It cuts out confusion on where to apply CSS rules.
• Editing CSS is currently limited to administrators, which is a major barrier to participation.
• All stylesheets must be loaded on all pages (whether they actually use the page or not), which wastes bandwidth and makes debugging style rules more difficult.

You can learn more about TemplateStyles on MediaWiki.org. Technical documentation is also available.

This is an optional feature and no one must use it, but template contributors are encouraged to do so! Please discuss and let us know if there are any concerns. If there are no concerns we will proceed to deploy the feature on the 9th of August.

Thank you.

CKoerner (WMF) (talk) 21:28, 6 Est 2018 (UTC)